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was adjourned upon while speaking

4 Years, 3 Months ago

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I am a concerned parent who had several issues to discuss at our last local pto meeting for my children's school. The principal of the school ran the meeting, there were no Robert's Rules of Order being followed and once I was finally! recognized there were teacher's heckling and harassing me while I was speaking. I was getting to one of my main points and when another parent spoke up and asked the teachers to please allow her to hear me they immediately adjourned the meeting while I was in midsentence and walked out of the gym where we were holding the meeting. My questions are these: 1. Are principals allowed to participate in PTO meetings and more importantly run! the meetings? 2. There were only two parents on the board of officers, one was president and one was vice president and I was told that they do not hold elections, they just swap roles from year to year, is this acceptable practice? 3. Can concerned parents over ride the current PTO board and form a new one, like a coup?LOL!
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I'm sorry you had that negative experience.

A PTO can be anything from an informal committe-like extension of the school that is totally controlled by the principal to a fully independent 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization set up as a qualified charitable organization.

While there are common practices many of us share, PTOs are are not affilated with any national/state group and there are no set "rules" and no governing authority. Most of us would expect to operate with bylaws, annual elections, and basic parliamentary procedure at meetings. But there's nothing to say a PTO must do those things.

It's a long shot, but you can check with your school district to see if they have any district level policies on how a parent group should be run.

In a situation like yours, change usually occurs because:

  • Parents interested in change become active in the organization and help it evolve slowly over time;

  • Parents who feel strongly enough band together to agressively voice their concerns regarding how things are run, basically forcing change;

  • The school gets a new principal or some new administrative guidance affords an opportunity to start fresh.


Or...it just continues on as is.

So, yes, a coup is possible. Will it work/be effective? No guarantees.

Good luck.
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thank you for your responce. I will take that info. under advisement and try to get other parents involved.
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You didn't mention what issues you were raising. Were they of significance to the whole group? Maybe your concerns would be more appropriate for a private meeting with the principal.
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If in fact it was the principal who ran the meeting, how is it it was adjourned like that? sounds like the prinicpal was not in control, or didnt take control, or didnt run it properly. RRO or not is immaterial, common courtesy and respect should prevail.
It sounds like weak leadership issue...STAFF heckles a speaker, and the boss doesnt put a stop to it?? especially if the boss is alsoleading the meeting??? It just sounds like something is not right......I wonder what future there is in doing something like you suggest, You HAVE TO have the full support of the principal or youll never get anywhere.
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4 Years, 3 Months ago


 
parentsof7,

Whenever I see things like this there are a couple of questions that immediately come to mind:

1. Is the school private or public?

2. Is the group a true "PTO"? A PTO is usually a non-profit, 501(C)(3) organization. It has it's own tax exempt number, indicating that it is not controlled by the school or the town.

3. Does the group have Bylaws? If so, they should have answers to many of the questions that you are asking. If not, then it is always recommended that a group create them.

Now let me explain why these questions are important...

If the school is private it really diminishes the ways to rectify the situation. If the school is public then the Principal has a boss and the town likely has a School Committee, and there is a Superintendant of Schools. If you can't get satisfaction through the Principal you have recourse.

If the group is not a true "PTO", meaning that it is not it's own non-profit organization and is instead controlled by the school, then I would say that the Principal controlling the meeting would make more sense. If the group is it's own non-profit then that is extremely odd and it sounds as though the President isn't doing her jab and/or is in the pocket of the Principal.

Most non-profit 501(C)(3) organization do have their own set of Bylaws that should explain things like the proper way to hold elections, when they are held, who controls the organization, terms of ofice, etc. As a member of the group, again if it is a non-profit 501(C)(3), then each member should have the right to see the Bylaws. Mind you I have heard horror stories regarding members trying to obtain their groups, but I would ask these questions to the President.

One avenue that you can try is your town hall. I know that my group's status is kept on file there, and possibly even a set of the Bylaws (though I post it on the website for all to see).

I am actually very interested in what the topic was that you brought up that caused the Principal to adjourn the meeting. I would also say this...

If that happened to me I would have approached the Principal immediately after the meeting. If I did not get the respect or the attention that one would deserve in this situation I would have a letter written to the town's Superintendant of Schools within the hour and would be waiting for him at his office the next morning. So I can understand your disdain with the situation. Have you approached the Principal in regard to what happened?

Let us know.

PresidentJim
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