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		<title>Teacher&#8217;s Gift Idea &#8211; Lowe&#8217;s Gift Card</title>
		<link>http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/fundraising/2009/11/19/teacher-gift-%e2%80%93-lowe%e2%80%99s-gift-card/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Back to School]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bright Ideas]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Teacher Appreciation]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, Lowe’s.
Lowe’s has been a huge supporter of schools and of PTOs and PTAs these past few years  (their Lowe’s Toolbox for Education program has given millions to PTOs and PTAs these past 5 years), and I’ve really enjoyed working with their whole team on a variety of projects.
But when they started talking about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Lowe’s.</p>
<p>Lowe’s has been a huge supporter of schools and of PTOs and PTAs these past few years  (their <a href="http://www.toolboxforeducation.com/" target="_blank">Lowe’s Toolbox for Education program</a> has given millions to PTOs and PTAs these past 5 years), and I’ve really enjoyed working with their whole team on a variety of projects.</p>
<p>But when they started talking about Lowe’s giftcards as good teacher appreciation and holiday gifts, even I was a bit skeptical. After all – you can&#8217;t exactly buy ceramic apples at Lowe’, right?</p>
<p>After they walked me through a few things they’re doing though, I was impressed.   And I think it’s worth a look for you.</p>
<p>First of all, while you can’t get ceramic apples  &#8212; you can get about a billion other things, tons of which would be great for a teacher.  (Classroom stuff and stuff for when the teachers are being actual normal everyday people).  Think: plants, gardening tools, organizing bins for the classroom, even Christmas decorations.  And a whole bunch more.</p>
<p>Even better, Lowe’s now has the ability for you to customize your gift card in a very cool way.  You can, for example, add a picture of your son or daughter along with “Mrs. B – thanks for helping me with fractions!” right on the giftcard.  How cool is that?</p>
<p>Check out their <a href="http://www.cardways.com/CP001/Cards/ChooseGiftCard.asp?cardtype=P&amp;productid=5&amp;retailerid=" target="_blank">Lowe’s giftcard page</a> and the personalization features before you make your holiday gift choices this year.</p>
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		<title>My Tip of the Week: Dues or No Dues?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Fundraising]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that it&#8217;s November, I imagine your membership drive, if you have one, is over. So my question (and tip) for you this week is, why do you charge dues to belong to your PTO? I personally think it&#8217;s a bad idea, and I hope you&#8217;ll discuss it with your group before next year&#8217;s drive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1312" title="piggybank" src="http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/piggybank1-150x150.jpg" alt="piggybank" width="150" height="150" />Now that it&#8217;s November, I imagine your membership drive, if you have one, is over. So my question (and tip) for you this week is, why do you charge dues to belong to your PTO? I personally think it&#8217;s a bad idea, and I hope you&#8217;ll discuss it with your group before next year&#8217;s drive rolls around again.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/pto-today-articles/article/465-just-say-no-to-dues">I wrote a column called &#8221;Just Say No to Dues&#8221;</a> a couple of years back, and I thought I&#8217;d summarize it here.</p>
<p>My problem with it comes from two perspectives. First, I think dues are anti-involvement and send the wrong message to your parent community. Why do I have to pay to belong to the parent group at my kids&#8217; school? I feel like I paid those dues with blood, sweat, and tears (not to mention the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars I&#8217;ve already spent raising junior). Most parent groups cite increasing parent involvement as their number one goal, and then the first thing they do is put a barrier (&#8221;$5, please&#8221;) between parents and their group. I think a much better message is &#8220;All parents and guardians of XYZ School are members of our PTO, and we look forward to a great year of working together to make our school a great place for our kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>The second is that membership drives actually aren&#8217;t even very effective as fundraisers. You spend lots of time and energy on a membership drive&#8230;frequent reminders, sign-up tables at open house, emails, more. And for what? $500? If you have a membership drive for the money, you have much better options to consider.</p>
<p>My observation is that most groups have membership drives because that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s always been done. My tip this week: It&#8217;s OK to change the way things have always been done.</p>
<p>Agree? Disagree? Tried it already? I&#8217;d love to hear your take on this issue. Chime in on the <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/boards/25-involvement-ideas-and-challenges/151433-dues-or-no-dues">&#8221;dues or no dues&#8221; thread on our message boards</a>.</p>
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		<title>Del Valle ISD in Texas PTA and PTO Controversy</title>
		<link>http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/parent-involvement/2009/11/16/del-valle-isd-in-texas-pta-and-pto-controversy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been following this story in the Del Valle district in Texas with interest, largely because it is so unusual.  The super there is taking a fairly strong stand against the formation of an independent parent group of any kind.  Most of the articles on the topic have been referring to PTAs, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been following this story in the Del Valle district in Texas with interest, largely because it is so unusual.  The super there is taking a fairly strong stand against the formation of an independent parent group of any kind.  Most of the articles on the topic have been referring to PTAs, but I understand that the policy is meant to apply to any independent (from the district) parent group.  There was an <a href="http://www.statesman.com/opinion/content/editorial/stories/2009/11/04/1104pta_edit.html" target="_blank">editorial in the Del Valle paper last week about the PTA and PTO controversy</a>.</p>
<p>The district and its schools do have school-organized and run parent committees.</p>
<p>In general, I think this is bad policy.  It’s obviously bad from the public relations perspective – this super may not be against parent involvement, but it sure is playing that way in public perception.  But I also think it’s wrong on the merits.  Schools and districts should be supporting organized and empowered parent partnerships, not running scared from those.  I certainly understand when districts want to place some collaborative limits on their parent groups (mandating, for example, an annual audit or asking that fundraisers be run a certain way), but this Del Valle approach takes those concerns way too far.</p>
<p>The one area where I agree with the super is in my opposition to dues for parent groups. We actually have an <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/boards/25-involvement-ideas-and-challenges/151433-dues-or-no-dues#151434">active topic on “dues or no dues” on our message boards</a> right now.  But if the parents in Del Valle want a parent group of their own – whether with dues or without – then they should be helped and encouraged. That’s clear. Here’s hoping this policy gets changed ASAP.</p>
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		<title>Tip of the Week: Don&#8217;t Fall into the Volunteer Comfort Zone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Parent Involvement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Running Your Group]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tim's Tip]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Volunteer Appreciation]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of a controversial tip for you this week, and it starts with a question: Has your leadership started slipping into a &#8220;this is what works for us and we&#8217;re the only ones involved, anyway&#8221; mindset?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of a controversial tip for you this week, and it starts with a question: Has your leadership started slipping into a &#8220;this is what works for us and we&#8217;re the only ones involved, anyway&#8221; mindset?</p>
<p.Let me give you an example. You may only have five or six regular volunteer-leaders, and you've most likely gotten to know each other pretty well. You've tried the "we need more help" begging, but it's still just you. So what's the harm with having your next committee meeting at one of your houses, right? It's more convenient (for you), more comfortable, and maybe a couple of glasses of wine after the work is done would be fun, too. And heck -- any new volunteers are more than welcome to come.</p>
<p>While I understand the thinking, slipping into that mindset is a sure-fire way to close off involvement and to earn a clique reputation, even if it&#8217;s undeserved. Think about the one parent (who barely knows you guys) who has been thinking about getting involved. Will she feel comfortable finding your house and entering this very social, personal atmosphere? Unlikely. She&#8217;ll probably choose to stay home.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just one scenario. Have you stopped doing introductions and welcomes and nametags (because, well, most of us know each other)? Have you started just scheduling the regulars to volunteer (because no one else ever wants to help)?</p>
<p>Leadership isn&#8217;t easy, and good leadership is often not convenient. Taking those extra steps to be welcoming and open to even the few newcomers is part of the job. Work at keeping at it even when it feels pointless. It&#8217;s not. If you do have only a small handful of core volunteers, then just one or two more can make a big difference. And remaining open to that help is essential to bringing in the newcomers.</p>
<p>I would love to hear whether you&#8217;ve experienced this in your group or worked to solve it in some way; please join the <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/boards/25-involvement-ideas-and-challenges/151303-volunteer-comfort-zone?">discussion we started on our message boards</a>. We also have a ton of other great <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/volunteers-and-involvement?">articles and resources on getting more parents involved</a>.</p>
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		<title>My Tip of the Week: Help Keep Kids Healthy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bright Ideas]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Family Events]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is your group &#8212; like so many others &#8212; putting a focus these days on keeping children healthy? From exercise (and eating right) to the H1N1 virus to cough and cold and even to hand-washing, there are just so many concerns these days that affect our kids&#8217; health.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your group &#8212; like so many others &#8212; putting a focus these days on keeping children healthy? From exercise (and eating right) to the H1N1 virus to cough and cold and even to hand-washing, there are just so many concerns these days that affect our kids&#8217; health.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been interesting to watch so many groups getting proactive on the issue. Groups are <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/tfal?">spearheading flu clinics</a> at school and hosting<a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/sfn/SFN_homepage_leader.php?"> family events</a> around healthy habits. Two great volunteers at my school just put together a weeklong health and wellness program, including a blood drive, pilates in the classrooms, and a road race. Love it.</p>
<p>With that in mind, we&#8217;ve recently put together a new dedicated space on ptotoday.com just about what groups are doing about <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/healthy-school-kids?">Healthy School Kids</a>. It&#8217;s already a nice resource and will get better each month as we add even more of the best ideas we find from parent groups around the country. And &#8212; bonus! &#8212; we also expect to have a whole host of free offers (samples and the like) from health-focused companies available for &#8220;Healthy School Kids&#8221; groups, starting in the next month or two. Check it out now (and preregister your group) at <a href="http://www.ptotoday.com/healthy-school-kids">ptotoday.com/healthy-school-kids</a>.</p>
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		<title>My Tip of the Week: Opening Doors to Involvement</title>
		<link>http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/parent-involvement/2009/10/29/my-tip-of-the-week-opening-doors-to-involvement/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Parent Involvement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Tim's Tip]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Opening Doors to Involvement
I&#8217;ve said for a long time that the key to growing involvement is to start by getting parents into your building. You don&#8217;t grow involvement by asking for help. You grow involvement by serving. Many attendees at your family events yield more volunteers down the road. Not to mention the fact that [...]]]></description>
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<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I&#8217;ve said for a long time that the key to growing involvement is to start by getting parents into your building. You don&#8217;t grow involvement by asking for help. You grow involvement by serving. Many attendees at your family events yield more volunteers down the road. Not to mention the fact that &#8212; even if those attendees never volunteer &#8212; your school is already a better place for everyone when parents are interacting with teachers and one another.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I elaborated on this concept in a column called &#8221;Open Doors, Lots of Them&#8221;. I think you&#8217;ll like it. But it&#8217;s worth mentioning that how you open doors is almost as important as opening those doors in the first place. How&#8217;s your hospitality? Do folks feel welcomed? What about guilt? Is there ever an element of guilt in your approach, as in: &#8220;Thanks for coming; this took a lot of work, maybe you could help next time.&#8221;</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">While it&#8217;s certainly true and understandable, it&#8217;s also exactly the wrong way to build involvement. Treating people well and avoiding guilt is what gets people talking positively about your group and coming back to more events&#8230;and eventually volunteering. Of course, that can also work in the reverse if you&#8217;re not taking the time to make your events feel special.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">We&#8217;ve had a ton of community talk about family events and involvement in recent weeks. I hope you&#8217;ll join in. You can also follow me on Twitter.</div>
<p>I&#8217;ve said for a long time that the key to growing involvement is to start by getting parents into your building. You don&#8217;t grow involvement by asking for help. You grow involvement by serving. Many attendees at your family events yield more volunteers down the road. Not to mention the fact that &#8212; even if those attendees never volunteer &#8212; your school is already a better place for everyone when parents are interacting with teachers and one another.</p>
<p>I elaborated on this concept in a column called <a href="/pto-today-articles/article/371-open-doors-lots-of-them">&#8221;Open Doors, Lots of Them&#8217;</a>&#8216;. I think you&#8217;ll like it. But it&#8217;s worth mentioning that how you open doors is almost as important as opening those doors in the first place. How&#8217;s your hospitality? Do folks feel welcomed? What about guilt? Is there ever an element of guilt in your approach, as in: &#8220;Thanks for coming; this took a lot of work, maybe you could help next time.&#8221;</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s certainly true and understandable, it&#8217;s also exactly the wrong way to build involvement. Treating people well and avoiding guilt is what gets people talking positively about your group and coming back to more events&#8230;and eventually volunteering. Of course, that can also work in the reverse if you&#8217;re not taking the time to make your events feel special.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had a ton of <a href="/community">community talk about family events and involvement</a> in recent weeks. I hope you&#8217;ll join in. You can also<a href="http://twitter.com/TimPTO"> follow me on Twitter</a>.</p>
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		<title>Texas District Takes Stand Against PTAs and Dues</title>
		<link>http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/pto-vs-pta/2009/10/28/texas-district-takes-stand-against-ptas-and-dues/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Texas at least, this is a bit of a man-bites-dog story, as this Del Valle district is enforcing a rule specifically banning formally-affiliated PTA groups from its campus.
It’s especially unusual since the Texas state PTA has been aggressive in promoting exactly the opposite policies, trying to get local school boards to make PTA the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Texas at least, this is a bit of a man-bites-dog story, as this <a href="http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/education/entries/2009/10/20/del_valle_school_district_offi.html">Del Valle district is enforcing a rule specifically banning formally-affiliated PTA groups from its campus</a>.</p>
<p>It’s especially unusual since the Texas state PTA has been aggressive in promoting exactly the opposite policies, trying to get local school boards to make PTA the default choice in their schools. I give the Del Valle super credit for guts, as it’s often so much easier to give in to the organized PTA in a state like Texas than it is to stand up for a concepot that doesn’t have an organizational backing (PTOs are stand-alone). The Del Valle reasoning is same as most of the groups we see going PTO – why should parents have to pay dues to belong to the parent group at their own child’s school?  It’s a good question.</p>
<p>While <em>some</em> PTOs choose to charge dues; <em>all PTAs</em> must charge dues.  It’s a fundamental difference.  In the end, my conclusion is the same:  I’m for parent groups and involvement, no matter the acronym.  Did find this article intriguing, though.</p>
<p>Two quick notes:  1. <a href="/pto-today-articles/article/292-pto-vs-pta-whats-the-difference">Our PTO v PTA page</a> sheds even more light on the issue; and 2. <a href="/events/expo_learn_more.html#Houston">Our PTO Expo is actually coming to Texas</a> (among other places) this spring.  I’ll be giving a keynote at the Texas event on best PTO and PTA habits.</p>
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		<title>My Tip of the Week: Communicate to Everybody</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A story we&#8217;ve just added to ptotoday.com, &#8221;Communication Tips for Better Involvement,&#8221; has an idea that I really like. One creative group took their volunteer signup sheet and made it into a giant bulletin board in the school lobby. If you want to run a game at the spring carnival or read to kids at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A story we&#8217;ve just added to ptotoday.com, <a href="/pto-today-articles/article/926-communication-tips-for-better-involvement?">&#8221;Communication Tips for Better Involvement</a>,&#8221; has an idea that I really like. One creative group took their volunteer signup sheet and made it into a giant bulletin board in the school lobby. If you want to run a game at the spring carnival or read to kids at the <a href="/sfn/SFN_reading_leader.php?">Family Reading Night</a> or cook spaghetti at the annual pasta feed, just put your name down in the appropriate place on the bulletin board. Everybody can see at all times which activities are planned, what volunteers are needed, and who has signed up. If you change your mind, you just erase your name.</p>
<p>The reason I like this so much is that it sends a strong message that PTO is about every parent in the school. Running these events is something that we all do together, not something planned and run by a few officers who you may not even know.</p>
<p>The way you communicate says so much about your group. In fact, many parents may only know you by your communications. You&#8217;ll improve your image if you keep things upbeat; emphasize that PTO is about everybody, not just the officers; don&#8217;t send so much home that people start to ignore it; and, of course, always check carefully for errors before you send anything out. You&#8217;ll also find great <a href="/pto-today-articles/article/921-getting-the-word-out?">tips for improving your newsletter, website, flyers</a>, and more on ptotoday.com.</p>
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		<title>Pre-Pay Fundraiser or Post-Pay Fundraiser?</title>
		<link>http://www.ptotoday.com/ptoblog/fundraising/2009/10/16/pre-pay-fundraiser-or-post-pay-fundraiser/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Finance]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Fundraising]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Running Your Group]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Pre-Pay Fundraiser or Post-Pay Fundraiser?
Which one did you use this fall?  Which one is the best choice for your group?
This is always a big discussion on our message boards and in our PTO Today community, mainly because the differences are so stark.  I recently received an email about this topic from an expert that brought [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Pre-Pay Fundraiser or Post-Pay Fundraiser?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Which one did you use this fall?  Which one is the best choice for your group?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">This is always a big discussion on our message boards and in our PTO Today community, mainly because the differences are so stark.  I recently received an email about this topic from an expert that brought a fundamental new concern into the debate.  I’ll explain below.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">First, to set the table what we’re talking about here is whether you should run your fundraiser so that all sales are paid for up-front (pre-pay) or whether you should take orders and then collect money only at delivery time (post-pay).</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I can give you three facts in this debate:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">1. Almost all group will make more profit with post-pay, usually a lot more.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">2. You will likely have a bounced check or two or get beaten in another way in post-pay (though #1 still appllies);</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">3. There’s some extra work involved with post-pay, as sellers need to go back and collect money at delivery time.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">This expert I heard from – a long-time salesman in the fundraising business – gave this perspective:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">“A postpay sale is going to generate some &#8220;no pay&#8221; sales.  That&#8217;s a given as &#8220;the cost of doing business.&#8221;  It is also true that a postpay sale generates approximately double the sales volume of a prepay sale.  As an example, (one of my schools) had a total sales of about $4,500 on their prepay fall fundraiser in 2007.  They switched to postpay in 2008 and had a total sales of over $20,000.  They more than quadrupled the fundraiser profit that they could spend on behalf of the children, and did it with the same size of enrollment.  Yes, it takes a little effort to collect all the money, but they liked the additional money so much that they are doing a postpay sale again this fall.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">A second reason relates to the issue of trust.  When parents are told they must have the money up front, they are reluctant to ask their co- workers to buy, lest the co-worker be insulted, thinking that the parent doesn&#8217;t trust them.  An even worse situation is one where a school will not accept checks at all. This indicates a severe lack of trust and is pretty much guaranteed to make parents decide not to</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">participate at all.   If you have less than half the parents participating on a fundraiser, you have a lack of trust on the part of the parents in the school administration, simply because the parents feel that they are not trusted.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">The new factor for me was a discussion of how our credit card and debit card and online banking society has made prepay so difficult.  Years ago in a prepay sale, the neighbor or co-worker or aunt or uncle pulled out a check and paid for their order on the spot.  Today, I haven’t carried a check in my wallet in several years, and I rarely have more than $20 or $30 in cash in my pocket. Many days, I couldn’t help the prepay seller, even if I wanted to.  The stats show that I’m far from alone in using plastic and online banking (and few paper checks) in my daily routine. This is a huge factor making prepay so difficult.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Hadn’t thought of that.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">I’m interested in your take and your experiences on this. Did you prepay or postpay this year? Seeing any trends at your school? Love to hear ‘em.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">PS – Are you following us on twitter yet?  @TimPTO and @ptotoday.</div>
<p>Which one did you use this fall?  Which one is the best choice for your group?</p>
<p>This is always a big discussion on our <a href="/boards/">message boards</a> and in our PTO Today <a href="/community">community</a>, mainly because the differences are so stark.  I recently received an email about this topic from an expert that brought a fundamental new concern into the debate.  I’ll explain below.</p>
<p>First, to set the table what we’re talking about here,  is whether you should run your fundraiser so that all sales are paid for up-front (pre-pay) or whether you should take orders and then collect money only at delivery time (post-pay).</p>
<p>I can give you three facts in this debate:</p>
<p>1. Almost all group will make more profit with post-pay&#8211; usually a lot more.</p>
<p>2. You will likely have a bounced check or two or get beaten in another way in post-pay (though #1 still applies).</p>
<p>3. There’s some extra work involved with post-pay, as sellers need to go back and collect money at delivery time.</p>
<p>This expert I heard from – a long-time salesman in the fundraising business – gave this perspective:</p>
<blockquote><p>“A postpay sale is going to generate some &#8220;no pay&#8221; sales.  That&#8217;s a given as &#8220;the cost of doing business.&#8221;  It is also true that a postpay sale generates approximately double the sales volume of a prepay sale.  As an example, (one of my schools) had a total sales of about $4,500 on their prepay fall fundraiser in 2007.  They switched to postpay in 2008 and had a total sales of over $20,000.  They more than quadrupled the fundraiser profit that they could spend on behalf of the children, and did it with the same size of enrollment.  Yes, it takes a little effort to collect all the money, but they liked the additional money so much that they are doing a postpay sale again this fall.</p>
<p>A second reason relates to the issue of trust.  When parents are told they must have the money up front, they are reluctant to ask their co- workers to buy, lest the co-worker be insulted, thinking that the parent doesn&#8217;t trust them.  An even worse situation is one where a school will not accept checks at all. This indicates a severe lack of trust and is pretty much guaranteed to make parents decide not to participate at all.   If you have less than half the parents participating on a fundraiser, you have a lack of trust on the part of the parents in the school administration, simply because the parents feel that they are not trusted.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The new factor for me was a discussion of how our credit card and debit card and online banking society has made prepay so difficult. Years ago in a prepay sale, the neighbor or co-worker or aunt or uncle pulled out a check and paid for their order on the spot.  Today, I haven’t carried a check in my wallet in several years, and I rarely have more than $20 or $30 in cash in my pocket. Many days, I couldn’t help the prepay seller, even if I wanted to.  The stats show that I’m far from alone in using plastic and online banking (and few paper checks) in my daily routine. This is a huge factor making prepay so difficult.</p>
<p>Hadn’t thought of that.</p>
<p>I’m interested in your take and your experiences on this. Did you prepay or postpay this year? Seeing any trends at your school? Love to hear ‘em.</p>
<p>PS – Are you following us on twitter yet?  @TimPTO and @ptotoday.</p>
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		<title>My Tip of the Week: PTO File Saving and Sharing</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tsullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How great is it when your group has that one mom or dad who&#8217;s a pro at writing PTO letters or designing PTO flyers? It&#8217;s like your own little marketing department, and it makes a big difference in how your group is perceived at school.
The trouble is, though, that most groups don&#8217;t have that design [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How great is it when your group has that one mom or dad who&#8217;s a pro at writing PTO letters or designing PTO flyers? It&#8217;s like your own little marketing department, and it makes a big difference in how your group is perceived at school.</p>
<p>The trouble is, though, that most groups don&#8217;t have that design pro or, when you do, her darn kids grow up and she moves on. It&#8217;s so frustrating trying to find just the right words for the letter or searching through bad clip art for the flyer when you&#8217;re just not that good at it. Worse yet, your group is sometimes judged by the quality of those amateur productions.</p>
<p>So the question is, does your group have some sort of storing or sharing system for last year&#8217;s and this year&#8217;s forms and flyers so that next year&#8217;s volunteers (possibly you again) will start out ahead? It&#8217;s an important concept. And it&#8217;s the spirit behind one of the most practical, most popular parts of ptotoday.com. Called the <a href="/filesharing">PTO Today File Exchange</a>, there are already more than 700 various forms and flyers up there for you to borrow from. Here are three great examples of really practical files for you:</p>
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<li><a href="/filesharing/document/73-pto-today-committee-chair-success-tips?">Committee Chair Success Tips</a></li>
<li><a href="/filesharing/document/74-pto-today-112-suggested-auction-items?">112 Suggested Auction Items</a></li>
<li><a href="/filesharing/document/89-pto-today-10-reasons-to-get-involved-color?">&#8221;10 Reasons To Get Involved&#8221; Flyer</a></li>
</ul>
<p>Take them, make them your own, and make your work that much easier. And if you like your own results, upload them back to the <a href="/filesharing">File Exchange</a> for another leader to use. Kind of cool.</p>
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