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Ready to take the first step to PTO, but PTA stepping on my toes

22 years 1 month ago #75276 by BJD
Of course if there is a PTA in existence, there must be a reason. A group of concerned folks at one time or another researched the benefits of PTA and voted to organize one. One single person should not be able to make the decision. I would suggest contacting the state PTA and/or PTA council for further information. I bet that they would send a representative to provide you with answers to your questions and guidence.
22 years 1 month ago #75275 by BJD
Of course if there is a PTA in existence, there must be a reason. A group of concerned folks at one time or another researched the benefits of PTA and voted to organize one. One single person should not be able to make the decision. I would suggest contacting the state PTA and/or PTA council for further information. I bet that they would send a representative to provide you with answers to your questions and guidence.
22 years 1 month ago #75274 by JHB
It sounds like you have a good plan of action in mind. I agree with what's been said above. Your goal should definitely be to explore the pros and cons of EACH organization in an open, ojbective way.

We are a PTO, and that decision was made years before I was here. It's fine - perhaps even what I would have personally chose - but I believe that people seriously underestimate the value of the PTA infrastructure when it comes to processes, rules, officer training, professional expertise, documentation, etc. It may be that, after exploring the issues, your group decides to change. Or, it might be that you become aware of more benefits and services you could utilize as a PTA group. Either way, I think you "win" because your group will be more knowledgeable and making decisions based on accurate information.

One last thing, if you do plan to meet with the Superintendent, I strongly encourage you to let your principal know - just as a matter of courtesy.
22 years 1 month ago #75273 by StopMeBeforeIVolunteerAgain
Replied by StopMeBeforeIVolunteerAgain on topic RE: Ready to take the first step to PTO, but PTA stepping on my toes
Thanks for the insight!
I guess that's just what I needed to hear..whether we sould discuss and research the prospect of changing to a PTO either inside or outside of the PTA meetings.
I suppose I will do both.
One of my concerns was like that of "nicurn's", I don't want to change without notifying the families. That's one of our problems now, no communication.
"Nicurn", you're lucky to have such a good relationship with your PTA rep. Maybe that's our problem too...not taking advantage of what the State and National PTA have to offer. A "pros and cons" list/survey sounds like a fair and impartial way to go. I better get crackin'...
22 years 1 month ago #75272 by nicurn
hi, one of the schools in our neighbourhood changed to a pto over the summer a few years ago, but it seemed very underhanded in the way they went about it. There were no discussions about it, they just went door to door and got signatures. I think that it is definently something that needs to be discussed with membership, let them know all the pros/cons to each side and then let them decide. For me personally, I was very glad that we were a pta because we had some serious issues in the beginning of the year and it was nice to have backup. (district and state). I think if it were to come up again, it wouldn't be bad because the issues have since been resolved. (although, we have a great district rep and I would hate to lose that). Good luck. maggie
22 years 1 month ago #75271 by Publisher
Hi StopMe --

Some of your note is confusing, but I'll try to give you what is the most common timing along with some opinion.

Typically, the parent group itself deides on its affiliation. There's no conflict there. You're not choosig between countries; you're just choosing how your particular group will continue to be run. An existing PTA's local members can certainly (and should) be the research and decision-making body for a change. By the same token, a local PTO's members would be the right folks to explore a change to affiliating with the PTA.

If you believe a change to PTO is wise, you can get that discussion on your agenda. And you can make your case inside of and outside of meetings heading toward a vote.

In my opinion, having both a PTO and a PTA is not wise. It's confusing for the general parent population and -- in the end -- both groups wind up being less effective than they could be. PTOs and PTAs do the same "stuff." The name difference is based on whether you want to be affiliated with the national PTA or not. If your group wants to be a PTA, I wouldn't advise creating a PTO too. Similarly, if your group wants to be a PTO, I wouldn't advise having a PTA too.

Good luck,

Tim
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