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Do we have the right to say NO?

17 years 2 months ago #128802 by mommytlc
I'm just a little confused here. Why doesn't your PTO board vote? Our PTO board votes on everything. We are usually the only ones at our PTO meetings. It sounds like you need to redo your bylaws.
17 years 2 months ago #128787 by CrewChief
I have to agree with LUV. The reason your membership has a vote is to have a voice. Clearly they think these are worthy expenditures if they continue to approve them.

A bylaws revision placing a cap on the maximum total allocations to any one teacher or classroom would help with your specific concern. And/or include a clause limiting the number of times per semester or year that requests can be made or a deadline such as a specific date that all requests need to be made by.

If you have long term goals for your excess funds and don't want to see it whittled away, establish some long term accounts and vote to allocate funds to those accounts. Once they're allocated, they can't easily be removed and reallocated somewhere else.

At my last school, the library and the art cabinet were two accounts we allocated funds to at the end of each simply because they did need the extra money and they benefit all of the students. Perhaps if you had a dedicated account for these two programs, they wouldn't keep coming back for more a little at a time.

We dedicated one of our fundraisers to the library. Whatever money it made in a school year was all the funds they had to spend that year.

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17 years 2 months ago #128786 by my3strongtikes
Do you have a preliminary budget at the beginning of the year? In ours we have it outlined so much say for art supplies, assemblies(although we have stated we want them to benefit all students). They are expensive to only be for say one class.
For our PTO the updating the software wouldnt even be voted on that isn't something our PTO would pay for. Wouldnt that come out of your school budget?
You might need to add a few amendments to your bylaws about teacher requests. Also do the members know that they have made several requests, are the pros and cons of each purchase being made at the meetings?
I think we have all been in you situation for the longest time we had our teachers requesting area rugs for the classrooms, which doesn't sound like much but they wanted ones that were $500.00 a piece and 30 teachers asking it got to be a little much.

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17 years 2 months ago #128782 by LUVMYKIDS
If the request is put to the members and they vote to accept it, then your board can do nothing. It's not the board's place to override the membership's vote. Obviously your membership feels these are valid and acceptable requests.

As for other teachers not coming to you with requests, has anyone approached them about additional needs beyond the funds given to them at the beginning of the year? DO they need anything? Is it difficult for them to come to meetings to make the requests? Should that segment of your requests process be revamped? If individual teachers don't have any needs, are there some grade level needs(for ex. does the entire 4th grade need new classroom encyclopedias?)?

Really the only way to limit what amount a teacher can request or how frequently they can make requests is to have it written into your bylaws. Of course that would mean getting your membership's approval of those limits and maybe they don't want to do that. You could also, budget your monies more specifically. Don't leave a huge amount available for random requests. Instead ask the principal and teachers to put together a "wish list" of items that will benefit the entire school, then purchase items from that list as your funding allows.

Let me say that I agree with your feelings that amounts that large should benefit the whole school and not just a small segment of it, but if there are no set limits and your membership approves the requests, you're kind of stuck even if you as an individual don't agree.

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17 years 2 months ago #128779 by PTOMomof three
What power does the PTO board have to say no to a teacher who is requesting money? We have two teachers, the Art and Library teachers, they are draining our bank account. The tough thing is we do not vote to pass the request or not. Our members vote. These are the ONLY two teachers who seem to come to us for money. We have a staff of 51 who would actually be able to come to the PTO and request funds. Our Principal does know about this, he has to sign off on it. He is the type of principal who wants to please all, so we feel he will never say you've requested to much from the PTO.

The Treasurer has asked, when do we cut them off? It is getting out of hand, they receive $350.00 at the begining of the year and both teachers have well exceeded this amount.

Some of the things they asked money for, the Libraian just asked us for $480.00 to update her soft ware. We just bought her that soft ware last year. There have been may more I just can't think of them all. The art teacher has been a little more in the range of school products. She needed some bins replaced, she asked for $1000.00 for an author who writes about Butterflies to come in and present to the first and second grade. If we are going to spend that much money, it should benefit the whole school. So there are some examples.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to handle the situation? We need help!

Thanks so much
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